I KIND of agree here? Like whatever fuck Garrosh he got what he deserved, but Thrall should feel /some/ guilt. That said, there’s absolutely no way Thrall or anyone else could’ve foreseen how FAR Garrosh would go. Dude attempted genocide.
Things were getting bad long before Garrosh bombed Theramore though. You could argue Thall was too busy savin the world and whatever (because he’s ultimate flawless hero #1) but he HAD to have KNOWN shit was going down in the horde. Iirc he didn’t even ATTEMPT to do something about Garrosh until it was way too late. Same goes for all the leaders. Garrosh made his own decisions but literally no one tried to stop him.
Thrall actually did explain himself. He did know. He felt that it wasn’t his place (specifically that the Garrosh was now the Warchief of the Horde, and that it wasn’t “his” Horde anymore) to do anything until Vol’jin specifically for help:
“By then he was the warchief. I had no authority to do such a thing. I was not even a member of the Horde, truly, by that point. I became the leader of the Earthen Ring, and it was there that my loyalties lay. Other leaders were in a position to make change, but I was not. I did not even know for certain if my old vision of the Horde was still what the people wanted.”
“The world did not wait on my return,” he said with a self-deprecating smile. “It changed. The orcs changed. My Horde changed. What was I to do—kill my fellow orcs until it was once again my Horde? Did I have any right to force the Horde to be what it was under my leadership? Did I even have a voice to protest anymore, if I had chosen another path?”
“If you had been asked—what would you have done?”
“I was indeed asked for help by Vol’jin. And the moment I received that request from my brother, I answered it with a full heart.”
idek, why he didn’t, you know, ask anyone before it came to that, tho.
What a lot of people like to forget is that Garrosh never wanted to be Warchief. He begged Thrall not to give him the position, telling him that he was a man of war, not diplomacy. That’s right: When Thrall gave Garrosh the mantle of Warchief, Garrosh told him flat out that he did not want it, that he would not do a good job, and that it just wasn’t a good idea.
Being an adult means that you have to do a lot of things that you’re not ready for. Not to mention that if Garrosh didn’t want the mantle of Warchief, he could have just found a replacement and stepped down, but his pride got in the way and he chose not to.
Garrosh doesn’t get a pass for Thrall’s decision, and he gets the exact opposite of a pass for:
“And now, here at this moment, when I am free to speak my mind and heart, I tell you true: I regret …”
His laughter rang through the arena.
“Nothing!”
Anduin forgot to breathe. He felt cold, numb. He sat, staring at Garrosh, for a moment unable to mentally process the words. Sound hammered on his ears, the outraged cries of a furious public. Taran Zhu struck the gong futilely, calling for order.
But Garrosh, it seemed, had only begun. He lifted his shackled arms and bellowed, “Yes! Yes! I would destroy a thousand Theramores, if it would bring the Alliance to its knees! I would hunt down every night elf whelp that bleats on the face of this world and silence their mewling forever! I would banish every troll, every tauren, every simpering blood elf and greedy goblin and shambling walking corpse if it were within my power—and it almost was!”
You can’t say that, and then six months later blame Thrall for everything.
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dps should only queue as dps if their gear level isn’t obscenely high to the point that a dungeon can’t touch them. there comes a point where it just doesn’t matter.
Exactly lol.
5man heroics are 5min worth of trash farming to me. Bosses don’t even live long enough for me to use cooldowns, I just use everything on massive trash pulls.
Tired of people who think 1 spec is only capable of 1 role and there’s absolutely NO possible crossovers. Those people are the definition of bad players right there. Like, if I was a warrior queueing as a healer THAT would be a problem (and impossible lol) but as a super geared plate-wearing hybrid with an aggro buff? The salt is not necessary.
Most people are happy about the quick easy runs but every now and then I get pissbabies like that priest. Y’all can afk at the start, I don’t give a shit lol.
I’m sad that they’re going to be changing all of this in WoD. I loved nuking everything as an overgeared DPS in LFD.
im ret tanking dungeons for the satchel and some trash priest from Caelastrasz started bitching me out the whole time, calling me trash and a loser and a retard for queueing tank as a DPS spec.
It’s not like that SM run literally took less than 5min because I fucking pulled everything and never dropped below 70%, it’s not like I did 70% of the DPS and damage, but, yknow, I’m the idiot here.. lol
scrubs b salty
He’d have a point if you weren’t 150 item levels over the tuning for that dungeon.
People will complain about everything, I once had a druid refuse to heal SPM because I was too tanky. I thought they might be joking but after we finished, I looked and saw they actually didn’t heal.