Month: May 2014

deathweaver:

lobstmourne:

Yeah Thass was much more proficient in combat by the time he fought Koltira. He devoted a good chunk of his life to perfecting his swordsmanship for the military after all, but they were kinda right about him being a leader lol (even if most of uhh troop mishaps weren’t directly his fault maybe).

At the same time, how old is Koltira?  Had he seen combat before the Scourge Invasion?  Was he even a warrior?  I thought he was kind of a ranger..?  I really don’t know lol.  There’s so little info on elven military stuff and I HATE IT LOL.

like barkentin said, he does use an arrow (and he is also a skilled tracker), so idk!  he read more as warrior to me, but (also as barkentin said) the art isn’t very clear

age isn’t clear either … i tend to think of him as young.  the shades in that one quest call him a ‘boy’ but who the frick knows what that translates to in elf time.  certainly i think he’s physically older than thassarian, and he may have fought trolls before, but it seemed like his job was basically guarding that temple.  and going to banquets

Same, I figured with the harassing he did of his brother that, while he was the older one, he wasn’t that much older, and that he was still fairly young by elf standards.

deathweaver:

lobstmourne:

barkentin:

I always liked to think that right after he was raised, Koltira would attack Thassarian hoping to kill him. However, since Thass had been killed earlier, (and a plate-wearer before he had died) he was bit more skilled than Koltira and would typically win. Eventually the goal moved from ‘kill Thassarian’ to ‘beat Thassarian’, and then eventually Koltira just enjoyed the fighting.

I like that! 

I’M GONNA GENTLY WADE IN

so, from my perspective, the thing is that thassarian actually did not kill faltora — in fact, he specifically elected NOT to do so, which is what prompted koltira to run thassarian down and be like ‘hey baby U GOT GOOD IN U.  LET THE GOOD OUT.  COME ON, SON’

(ofc faltora still died to scourge under thassarian’s command, but thassarian himself hesitated)

during their duel, koltira taunts thassarian, but it has the flavor of still trying to break him out of arthas’s spell, still trying to draw out the humanity that koltira recognized in him.  the effort fails, of course, especially b/c arthas is like right there at time with his pom-poms out, but i don’t think that koltira really blames thassarian for his death.  i can agree that there’d be complex feelings; possibly some bitterness towards the fact that thassarian held the sword that gutted him

but koltira knows that arthas was the puppetmaster.  the largest portion of his anger is reserved for the lich king, imo

(i agree that thassarian was/is more skilled than koltira, though; this is shown p clearly in the training session depicted in the manga.  they were both plate wearers, though!  the manga seems to imply that koltira was a warrior of some kind — but it also implies that he had a pretty easy, safe life pre-Scourge)

See, I always thought that Koltira was mainly some sort of archer. He originally attacks Thassarian with an arrow, then switches to the sword. In the scourge attack, he’s dressed the same as the other archers while it looks like the plate classes have shields. And then when he fights he’s very quickly disarmed (ughhh why can’t I have a disarm as a DK) idk though, the art is very non-specific.

lobstmourne:

HOW DARE YOU GIVE ME DEATH KNIGHT FEELS IT’S TOO EARLY FOR THIS /SOBS

It is never too early for death knight feels.

lobstmourne:

taranzhus:

My favorite thing about Koltira and Thassarian is that Thassarian literally murdered Koltira (and his brother) and then they’re just bros and completely gay at each other

pretty much lol

idk I always figured Koltira intended to kill Thassarian someday in retribution but was waiting till he was strong enough, maybe waiting for the chance to do it, and maybe over time his hate starts to dim and he just never does it

but maybe Thassarian knows what his intentions are (or were) and that’s why he’s so invested in keeping Koltira safe and “alive”

because

if someone’s finally gonna put him out of his misery, finally put him to rest

he hopes Koltira will be the one to do it

I always liked to think that right after he was raised, Koltira would attack Thassarian hoping to kill him. However, since Thass had been killed earlier, (and a plate-wearer before he had died) he was bit more skilled than Koltira and would typically win. Eventually the goal moved from ‘kill Thassarian’ to ‘beat Thassarian’, and then eventually Koltira just enjoyed the fighting.