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I think its safe to say you’re something of an authority on Death Knights. Is it possible to have a situation where Scourge Death Knights regain their will independently, outside of the Events of Light’s Hope or Frozen Throne expansion. Secondly, do you think there’s a circumstance where a sufficiently skilled Death Knight could lose an arm, but choose to remain without it? Perhaps seeing it as penance for their actions?

shithowdy:

tevruden:

owlpellet:

An authority? You flatter me, anon!

The two most likely events for a death knight to regain their total free will were Acherus and the death of Arthas (and while there is no canon evidence of the latter happening, there is at least precedent, as the Lich King being severely weakened is what allowed the Forsaken to break free– I think an actual defeat would be more than enough to sever stronger-willed individuals). 

As for now, we don’t know what Bolvar’s grip on his armies is like. His goal is to keep them in control, not actually conquer or destroy anything, so we don’t know how much slips through the cracks (or is allowed through). It’s possible that stronger-willed individuals are able to drift away from the hivemind, especially if they’re not particularly threatening (an ex-paladin who just wants to go home as opposed to some bloodthirsty maniac who devoted himself to the Scourge willingly, for example).  

You could get creative with the circumstances, too! Perhaps the character in question… hell, I don’t know. Maybe they got stuck at the bottom of the sea for three years after their ziggurat crashed during the Northrend war and something something sea floor leylines something something Old Gods allowed them to break free. Or a lot of meditation. Who knows.

I’d not make up anything too convoluted because too much backstory, in my own experience, makes a character harder to develop (or be of interest to anybody) in current times. But you could easily contrive a way for a DK to break free after the events in Icecrown.

The second question is much easier!

Regular people lose limbs and manage without them all the time. I’m sure a magically-animated, superpowered, semi-immortal killing machine could get along just fine without an arm. A little inconvenient in some combat situations, perhaps, but nothing too impeding. They’d just have to adjust their fighting strategies and techniques accordingly, and hopefully they never end up in a situation where they have to maintain a handstand and are suddenly very itchy.

There’s also precedent for DKs mutilating themselves as a form of penance (Ormus the Penitent, the gear vendor in ICC, tore out his own eyes). While your question makes it sound like it was an accident that they view as some sort of cosmic payback, they are definitely capable of experiencing guilt over their actions and having a desire to repent.

Actually, we know a little bit of what Bolvar’s control over the scourge is like! There was a lore panel for what I believe was the Cataclysm reveal, and they said that the transition between Arthas and Bolvar’s reigns was not an easy one and that he lost control over all of the Scourge in the plaguelands.

It would not be too far of a stretch to say that during the sundering of Frostmourne, your character was in the plaguelands and between Arthas losing the Helm of Domination, Frostmourne being broken and Bolvar taking the reins as Lich King, your character was freed not only from the Lich King, but the entirety of the Scourge.

I am on mobile now, but I will get the exact quote when I get to a real computer.

Yeah,

(as I said in the first paragraph) the initial transition of the Lich King would be the most ideal time to concoct a backstory surrounding your character breaking free at a time other than Light’s Hope. 

But we really don’t know what it’s like after that. Like if a minion of the Scourge in Northrend could have feasibly broken free during the events of MoP. If someone desperately fights his will because they want to do right by the world, would he give a shit and let them go or would he hold onto them because he doesn’t want to take the risk?

I’d love the link for that panel though, because I must have missed that one entirely– the only answer for Bolvar I can remember is the one where they put to rest any idea of his story continuing.

Here we go:

5:10PM A: It wasn’t an easy transition for him. The scourge and Cult of the Damned operating the in Plaguelands are autonomous.

5:07PM Q: What happened to Bolvar? We haven’t seen him reign in the scourge at all. What’s he doing on the Throne?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/22/blizzcon-2011-lore-qanda-liveblog/

If they’re autonomous it might also be easier for stronger willed individuals (like DKs) to break free, with the lack of the overwhelming will of the Lich King.

I think its safe to say you’re something of an authority on Death Knights. Is it possible to have a situation where Scourge Death Knights regain their will independently, outside of the Events of Light’s Hope or Frozen Throne expansion. Secondly, do you think there’s a circumstance where a sufficiently skilled Death Knight could lose an arm, but choose to remain without it? Perhaps seeing it as penance for their actions?

owlpellet:

An authority? You flatter me, anon!

The two most likely events for a death knight to regain their total free will were Acherus and the death of Arthas (and while there is no canon evidence of the latter happening, there is at least precedent, as the Lich King being severely weakened is what allowed the Forsaken to break free– I think an actual defeat would be more than enough to sever stronger-willed individuals). 

As for now, we don’t know what Bolvar’s grip on his armies is like. His goal is to keep them in control, not actually conquer or destroy anything, so we don’t know how much slips through the cracks (or is allowed through). It’s possible that stronger-willed individuals are able to drift away from the hivemind, especially if they’re not particularly threatening (an ex-paladin who just wants to go home as opposed to some bloodthirsty maniac who devoted himself to the Scourge willingly, for example).  

You could get creative with the circumstances, too! Perhaps the character in question… hell, I don’t know. Maybe they got stuck at the bottom of the sea for three years after their ziggurat crashed during the Northrend war and something something sea floor leylines something something Old Gods allowed them to break free. Or a lot of meditation. Who knows.

I’d not make up anything too convoluted because too much backstory, in my own experience, makes a character harder to develop (or be of interest to anybody) in current times. But you could easily contrive a way for a DK to break free after the events in Icecrown.

The second question is much easier!

Regular people lose limbs and manage without them all the time. I’m sure a magically-animated, superpowered, semi-immortal killing machine could get along just fine without an arm. A little inconvenient in some combat situations, perhaps, but nothing too impeding. They’d just have to adjust their fighting strategies and techniques accordingly, and hopefully they never end up in a situation where they have to maintain a handstand and are suddenly very itchy.

There’s also precedent for DKs mutilating themselves as a form of penance (Ormus the Penitent, the gear vendor in ICC, tore out his own eyes). While your question makes it sound like it was an accident that they view as some sort of cosmic payback, they are definitely capable of experiencing guilt over their actions and having a desire to repent.

Actually, we know a little bit of what Bolvar’s control over the scourge is like! There was a lore panel for what I believe was the Cataclysm reveal, and they said that the transition between Arthas and Bolvar’s reigns was not an easy one and that he lost control over all of the Scourge in the plaguelands.

It would not be too far of a stretch to say that during the sundering of Frostmourne, your character was in the plaguelands and between Arthas losing the Helm of Domination, Frostmourne being broken and Bolvar taking the reins as Lich King, your character was freed not only from the Lich King, but the entirety of the Scourge.

I am on mobile now, but I will get the exact quote when I get to a real computer.

lindblut:

euclase:

armellin:

reapergrellsutcliff:

pridetothefall:

wolveswithhats:

eliciaforever:

Why do artists refuse to use references why why why.

It’s not a contest to see who can get by without them. It’s not cheating to look at a thing in order to know what the thing looks like.

You don’t get stronger or better by pretending. Nobody is impressed by the awkward whatever-it-is you just drew. Use references.

I don’t think a lot of people know that it’s not cheating. I recall seeing so many piece of art called out because they referenced a pose, someone recognized it, and then proceeded to shame them for it. There’s this belief, both by creators and the audience, that artists should just be able to translate the ideas from their head to paper, and if they don’t, it’s plagiarism, or not true originality (spoiler alert: there’s no such thing).

I myself didn’t start using references until very recently, because even I was under the impression that it was frowned upon. And that belief has seriously crippled and stalled my ability to improve as an artist.

As a restarting artist, I can confirm. I just never knew. I thought you were just supposed to know how to draw the body correctly and if you didn’t you had no talent.

(( I am going to say this again, loud and clear for everyone:

USING REFERENCES FOR ART IS NOT ‘CHEATING’!!!

If you can draw/paint without references, great!  But if you need to use them, and feel that your art can be bettered by using references, please, use them!  This is one of the biggest tips I can give to artists, is USE REFERENCES! 

Anyone who would dare to attack someone for using references after ‘recognizing a pose’ is a dipshit, who doesn’t know a thing about art.

Do you know who else used references for their art?

Norman Rockwell

Alphonse Mucha

Gustav Klimt

Toulouse Lautrec

Vincent Van Gogh

Paul Gauguin

Edgar Degas

Gil Elvgren

Frida Kahlo

Pablo Picasso

Disney Studios

And thousands of others!  So, artists! Go forth, and use references!!! ))

What do you think artists do when they ask someone to stand infron of them for 6 hours and then they draw this person. Do they cheat? Or when they place a still life and then paint it, cheating again? LOL

#literally one of the biggest fears I have #is for some douchefuck to dig out my reference #and point at it and say that I’m not a real artist #I don’t want you to dig out my references to prove that I didn’t make up a realistic picture out of fucking thin air #that’s not how art works #but especially on this site it happens CONSTANTLY #it’s so fucking scary #when people who’ve never touched a pen in their lives think they’re qualified to judge you #and ‘reveal’ how you’ve ‘scammed’ people

Soooo. I made this post originally on my personal blog (I’m eliciaforever), and it was nothing more than a little rant about a specific incident that I deleted after five minutes. But before I could delete it, it took the hell off on me, and now it has all these notes. And LOTS OF AMAZING INPUT.

And I just wanted to add in response to the above tags in particular, that shaming people for using references is something that happens to so many of us SO OFTEN. It doesn’t matter how skilled you are. People think art is supposed to be magical or whatever, and anything else is a crime. The reality of course is that art is a thousand times more deliberate than a lot of people think it is.

So yeah. Good info to pass along. Use references, kids. <3

Reblogging because I think it’s important especially for young artists to gain the confidence to use references.

Seriously, references are esssential! Use them!

vekusen: this is what i doodled whilst camping sha today and i regret nothing tbhparody of this of course

vekusen:

this is what i doodled whilst camping sha today and i regret nothing tbh
parody of this of course

inkydemon: WIP

inkydemon:

WIP

saccharinescorpion:

saccharinescorpion:

garnet: i only have the freedom to exist on earth, not on my homeworld

jasper: your existance as a fusion is a shameless display

steven universe handbook: (has a bigass chapter dedicated to explaining how fusions are literally the personifications of relationships)

some clowncar: it’s hard to say what fusion is supposed to be metaphor for, maybe it’s public urination 

i just want to remind everyone that this isn’t an exaggeration 

Lets not forget Peridot’s “Would you mind un-fusing, it’s making me incredibly uncomfortable.”

HMMM I WONDER WHAT THAT COULD MEAN